Brad Ideas - Studio does content-ID takedown of my Hitler video about takedowns - Comments

No sign for me

brad — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:16:26 -0700

My video is still up on youtube after I filed the objection to the content-id takedown.

Downfall DMCA takedowns

J-Dubb's Theatre — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:11:14 -0700

I've seen several videos today by people who make regular Downfall parodies saying that as of the 28th, Constantine has begun issuing DMCA takedown notices to everyone who has filed a dispute for a Downfall parody. Do you know anything about this?

Hitler Reacts to "You Dun Goofed Up", Jesse Slaughter, and the C

justlaugh87 — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:09:36 -0700

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g98TAjeXmw

alternate website?

trudy — Wed, 05 May 2010 04:21:23 -0700

Somewhere there must be an enterprising website that is rapidly hosting more and more of the Hitler parodies. Anyone know it's url?

Sad, Constantin likely do not realize all the goodwill

Per-Ola — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 11:58:52 -0700

"Downfall" is a great movie, one of the better ones depicting a few pretty tense days in the end of WWII. Bruno Ganz's performance is outstanding and that man should have received an Oscar!

Constantin Films likely do not recognize all the goodwill they've gotten for this movie based on all these spoofs found all over the web. Many of us would never ever had heard of this movie, and would totally have missed it, had it not been for the proliferation of this clip.

In certain cases, I do understand a copyright holder's hunt for "copies" that try to benefit on other's artistic work w/o providing anything in return. This is certainly not such a case, and not being a legal expert, I just think it is sad that Constantin Films and its legal eagles have taken a "prohibitive" stance, when they could have gotten so much good publicity out of this for years to come.

BTW, if you have not seen the film, see it and especially the interview with Bruno Ganz in the DVD extras. Pretty powerful stuff.

Not too likely

brad — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:39:44 -0700

EFF encourages YouTube to take a position more protective of fair use, but it is in the end, their website, and they don’t have to host anything they don’t feel like hosting, any more than I have to host your videos on my website. So you would not get fair with a suit against them. Against Constantin? There is more potential there in that they used youtube’s system to take down videos they had no specific right to take down, but youtube gave them that power, and it is alas, youtube’s to give. Youtube’s only risk is if they get ruled as exercising editorial control over videos, they could become liable for all videos, but they would argue they are not doing that, but rather building a tool to let others exercise it. (for example a site that lets users vote something down is not exercising editorial control.)

Takedown class action

Trillion Dollar Kiss — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:10:21 -0700

I created a Downfall parody (Barack's Downfall) which was recently taken down after 172,000 views. I have filed a dispute notice saying it is a parody and noting that I refused to take any compensation in the form of ad revenues.

If my video is clearly fair use then do I have a case to sue YouTube and/or Constantin Films? Is there a possibility of a class action suit, or even the threat of such an action?

Isn't this the kind of this the EFF thrives on?

TDK

I heard about this...

Glennman — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:17:31 -0700

And for one, I'm glad to see someone eloquently standing up for Fair Use rights and their own creative expression. So many of these disputes dissolve into bickering and ridiculousness, and it tarnishes the actual subject of debate. I applaud your efforts.

So basically, you're just an

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:27:49 -0700

So basically, you're just an asshole who ruined it for everyone else, then.

From Spain I can watch your

Debianero — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 02:03:45 -0700

From Spain I can watch your video as well.

Article in PC World

Joel Upchurch — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:46:15 -0700

I read an article about these parodies in PC World earlier today and they mentioned yours specifically. They also mentioned that the movie's director thinks some of the parodies are hilarious.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/194649/hitler_parodies_booted_off_youtube...

This is great. Well done.

R. Allen — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:06:38 -0700

This is great. Well done. "Bruno Ganz makes a great Hitler!"

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I can see your video,

RustyBadger — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:54:44 -0700

here in Canada. Hopefully people will get their parodies back up simply by filing a dispute. I have a video on my own YouTube channel that is still in dispute a year after I filed a counter-claim, and I have permission from the label and the songwriter to use it! Their system is so screwed up...

Hitler isn't happy about this.

Zacqary Adam Green — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:16:52 -0700

Naturally, the Führer had a bit of a meltdown when he heard the news of what Constantin Film was doing.

(My video got Content ID'd as soon as I uploaded it, but was instantly unblocked as soon as I submitted a dispute)

I just viewed your wonderful parody in D.C.

Bruce — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:50:29 -0700

No takedown message here and the video plays fine, though others (e.g. Xbox Live) have been removed.

"You load sixteen gigs, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the Hollywood whores"

Studio does content-ID takedown of my Hitler video about takedowns

brad — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:52:48 -0700

In a bizarre twist of life imitating art that may be too “meta” for your brain, Constantin Films, the producer of the war movie “Downfall” has caused the takedown of my video which was put up to criticise their excessive use of takedowns.

Update: YouTube makes an official statement and I respond.

A brief history:

Starting a few years ago, people started taking a clip from Downfall where Hitler goes on a rampage, and adding fake English subtitles to produce parodies on various subjects. Some were very funny and hundreds of different ones were made. Some were even made about how many parodies there were. The German studio, Constantin, did some DCMA takedowns on many of these videos.

So I made, with considerable effort, my own video, which depicted Hitler as a producer at Constantin Films. He hears about all the videos and orders DMCA takdowns. His lawyers (generals) have to explain why you can’t just do that, and he gets angry. I have a blog post about the video, including a description of all the work I had to do to make sure my base video was obtained legally.

Later, when the video showed up on the EFF web site, Apple decided to block an RSS reader from the iPhone app store because it pointed to the video and Hitler says a bad word that shocked the Apple reviewers.

Not to spoil things too much, but the video also makes reference to an alternate way you can get something pulled off YouTube. Studios are able to submit audio and video clips to YouTube which are “fingerprinted.” YouTube then checks all uploaded videos to see if they match the audio or video of some allegedly copyrighted work. When they match, YouTube removes the video. That’s what I have Hitler decide to do instead of more DMCA takedowns, and lo, Constantin actually ordered this, and most, though not all of the Downfall parodies are now gone from YouTube. Including mine.

Now I am sure people will debate the extent to which some of the parodies count as “fair use” under the law. But in my view, my video is about as good an example of a parody fair use as you’re going to see. It uses the clip to criticise the very producers of the clip and the takedown process. The fair use exemption to copyright infringement claims was created, in large part, to assure that copyright holders didn’t use copyright law to censor free speech. If you want to criticise content or a content creator — an important free speech right — often the best way to do that will make use of the content in question. But the lawmakers knew you would rarely get permission to use copyrighted works to make fun of them, and wanted to make sure critical views were not stifled.