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 <title>Well, anyone on the Mac</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I have not tried these as I don&#039;t have a Mac.  Macs are great BSD boxes but they are twice the price.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 23:55:54 -0800</pubDate>
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 <title>iPhoto, anyone?  Aperture?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;iPhoto, anyone?  Aperture?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 22:09:59 -0800</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Another vote for photools.com and IMatch.  Not only does it have scripting, it also supports XML import/export of metadata, plus a configurable database where you can fine-tune the metadata you want for each photo.  It&#039;s a stunning piece of work for $60.  I wish it ran on Linux.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2005 05:30:41 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Joe Barnhart</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://photools.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://photools.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
it has a powerful scripting engine built in (similar to visual basic) so you can program keys to do whatever you want.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:53:32 -0700</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Have you tried Infanview for Windows? (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irfanview.com/)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.irfanview.com/)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s free and does 1 - 4 the way you want it, after which the main task is done and you can do tasks 5 and 6 is some other application...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Preferences allow you to turn off the confirmations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. After you defined the COPY default directory, F8 will copy the image. Space and Backspace navigate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. Press T for thumbnails. Define a thumbnail size of 300x300. Press delete on any /multiple marked image. They&#039;re gone (to the bin or forever - you choose in prefs).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. Move with F7 - you should have the confirmations on for move - and you get to select the directory. You can define 10 folders you want to sort to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. Captions = Filename? Then press F2 and type ahead. The extension of the file will not be harmed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Author is open to suggestions so you might get him to include a sorting function into the programm....&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:39:29 -0800</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I have looked at a lot of image management programs, though not all of them, and been surprised that none match what I think should be a very common workflow.  Sure, they all let you browse your photos and thumbnails of them, move them around, and rename them.  And some let you do the functions I describe but usually doing them to a lot of photos is cumbersome because they only have a slow mouse interface or a poor keyboard interface.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s what I want to do, and right now use a combination of programs to make happen.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;First, pick the &quot;potential winners&quot; from a set of photos.  That means letting me with a single keystroke copy the selected photo or mark it for later copying to a directory of the best shots I will actually put on the web.  Two keystrokes here is two many.  This must be done from full-screen view, not from thumbnails or reduced views.  You can only truly judge a winner in full screen view.   Thus, in this view, we should have basic movement on keys (space for next photo, backspace for previous is common) and a keystroke to tag/copy and go to the next, or at least to tag/copy and then I will hit space for the next.  A way to go back and undo it would be nice.  xzgv almost does this.
&lt;li&gt;Then scan the winners again and remove the duplicates.  Often you will have 2 or 3 good shots of a subject that all were potential winners.  So now it&#039;s time to quickly delete (no confirmations here, these are just copies) the other candidates and leave the winner.  Quick switch between full screen view and a multi-photo view is a plus here.&lt;br /&gt;
Because serious photographers take several shots of everything interesting, scanning for the winner often involves comparison with the other shots in the photo sequence.  A perfect UI for this is hard, though a clever program could spot images bunched together in time or even (with advanced algorithms) similar in composition.   A strip of thumbnails to get a sense of all the shots of an item while picking the one winner would be good.  A quick switch to a tiled view of all the potential winners at maximum size, with a way to pick the winner (here mouse click makes sense) also could be good.   This ability is of use not just in duplicate scanning but also initial winner picking.  I tend to find that I will see an image, tag it as a winner, then move on to next image to notice the next one is even better.  It would be nice to know in advance that might be so (thus the thumbnail strip.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Once I have the winners, put them into categories.  Create a series of named directories, and quickly move the photos into them.  Here&#039;s where a traditional thumbnail browswer which lets you select multiple photos and move them works well.  Most programs do this step OK.
&lt;li&gt;Once I have the winners in categories, caption them.  Again, it should be really fast.  View photo (at least 1/4 screen size, not a thumbnail) and type in the caption.  Then a single keystroke to go to next photo to caption it.  Caption should go into jpeg caption, or a simple file that can be worked with later.  ACDsee comes close to doing this but they use ugly keystrokes.
&lt;li&gt;Next, order them for presentation on a web page.  Not necessarily by date or sequence number or caption.
&lt;li&gt;Finally, generate a web gallery or slide show based on the order and captions and sorting.  Or, in my case leave available the data for my own scripts to do this.
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&lt;p&gt;Some programs as I note, come close.  However often they use cumbersome keys (alt keys and ctrl-keys when regular letters would do) or they require confirmations on frequently performed acts (useless as you quickly learn to automatically confirm, just wasting your time and providing now protection.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But does any system do all this, for linux or windows?  Let me know.&lt;/p&gt;
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