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 <title>Ive never heard Chris Rock</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Ive never heard Chris Rock make a joke about whites. Even if he had, it somehow doesnt balance out with the disgusting antu black racism of southern american whites and american ethnic cleansing of native americans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; People like you are the reason racist exists. You take people who victimize and try to make them the victim. Tell your story to those southern anti-obamist.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:41:40 -0800</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;that Aussies are FAR racists than Americans. It&#039;s shocking! and almost laughable. why is it laughable? because there&#039;s nothing great about Aussies at all and yet they look down on other Greater Asian countries. Talk about Japan, Korea, China, Hongkong, ALL of them have FAR stronger economy and ranked higher in GDP than Aussies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So it&#039;s like White beggers/hobos on the street making racist joke to Rich Asians. LMAO! I&#039;d say being wealthy or rich on yourself should come before worrying about other people. fucking stupid aussies&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:07:28 -0800</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I think there is a lot of racism simmering under the surface of Australian society, and it&#039;s because many in Australia (predominantly white men, since they have that &#039;colonial mentality&#039;) are still in denial that this was a predominantly black country for over 30,000 years, and that the black population is now about 1%. In other words, picture White Apartheid  South Africa, if the Dutch had massacred 99% of the black population, and shipped in predominantly white Dutch people. That&#039;s how Australia is - predominatly white people of British descent. But the irony is, as much as white Australian men are so racist, at the end of the day, they couldn&#039;t really bring back the White Australia Policy, because so many of them are in relationships with Asian women! And not usually Asian women that are born here, but Asian women that they&#039;ve found in Thailand, the Philippines or Indonesia, and brought them back here! Half of the couples you see are Australian men with Asian women. And that&#039;s not counting the famous men like Jimmy Barnes, Michael Klim, Bob Carr and Rupert Murdoch. What would Australian men do without Asian women? They&#039;d be alone! lol. BTW, a lot of Australian women have crushes on black American men, but usually they don&#039;t go to America on a mad man-hunt and bring them down here! lol.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:35:02 -0800</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Alright here goes. I myself am a white Australian women whom is married to an amazing black American man and yes we live in Australia. Now, you can listen to me jabber on about how we haven&#039;t come into much racism from the outside community just general curiosity as to why he is living here and for obvious reasons that would be for me. Now, Australia is a prodominant white country yes and don&#039;t get the chance to generally have a lot of contact with black people whether african, american, french whatever... I will say however the African community in Australia is getting larger by the second due to them immigrating here. You will find racism where ever you go. I know when we lived in America there were a few looks and words spoken but it happens here. Mainly people here in South Australia give looks of curiosity and sometimes questions of curiosity mainly because it&#039;s not something they see everyday. Generally friendly so long as you are friendly also. You cant come over here thinking all the people are going to drop to their knees and bow down to you thinking you are all that because you will get kicked in the head. lol... Be polite, take all comments with a pinch of salt and remember to laugh at yourselves and others. Aussie are good at laughing at themselves and definately others. Our humour is quite strange and at times can be looked at as racism but for years people have been calling us skips and you dont see us crying!! Now, I understand all to well that it isnt a nice feeling having racial slurs but please understand that though it is not right in the eye of the visitor may only be seen as fun and jokingly to the locals for example if someone says g&#039;day yank how are ya? Now don&#039;t take offence if you are american it has been a term used since early war days when americans were based at a naval sea port in perth and probably before then. It&#039;s an acknowledgment of yes you are american and I do understand calling you a yank back in america means you are from new york with its much other reasons. No offence intended. Enjoy yourself here in Australia there is so much beautiful stuff to see here, dont let some ignorant retards ruin your hopes and aspirations and believe like a lot of us that Australia is gradually learning that not everyone gets our humour and to some it isnt humourous. We are still a very young country and we will grow over time. I myself feel that my husband and I are contributing to Australians growing and understanding that people of all colours, shapes and sizes are just as equal as the next. As for the aboriginals, yes there is a lot of ongoing racism around this it is deeply routed and you do need to understand it wasnt that long ago that the aboriginal people became the lost generation so please bare with us all and do your part to help us extend on our understandings and appreciations for others. We generally are caring and respectful, outgoing people but like all countries we have the retards giving us a bad name also. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you from a proud interracial couple living in Australia!!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:53:36 -0800</pubDate>
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 <title>So Chris Rock is ok then?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;So once again its ok for Chris Rock (a black man) to make racist jokes about white people, but its not ok for white people to make fun of black people?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;People like you are such morons, the reason racism still exists is because people like you can&#039;t laugh at yourself.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:14:20 -0800</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;This is how I came to self-identify myself (N2). All total, I can attest to more than ten-plus AUS encounters and about six NZ otherwise. I am older and of Free Black descent, with an Irish patriarch like many &quot;Down Under&quot;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here goes. Before these direct meetings, I had an interest in the marsupials, (Uluru) Ayers Rock, etc. In fact, Thomas Keneally is one the greatest authors (fiction and non-fiction) of all time! In college, a peer noted that a Black lady from his hometown moved to AUS and returned to the USA due to racism. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The very first Australian I recall meeting was a former German Nazi army conscript visiting the cemetery in Ohio where some of his late comrades were buried. I believe he was sincere about his draft status back then and that he did not hate minorities, just Jews. After being asked for directions, I asked why he did not move to South Africa after WWII. My father and uncles on both sides were WWII and military veterans also. This man pointed out that he would be unwelcome there due to the Jews who fled Hitler. Yes, a number did succeed there and supported apartheid I know firsthand. Similarly, so have some other non-Black &quot;Coloureds&quot; who wanted to fit in. There are good and bad people everywhere you go. Being aware of Jewish slaveholders in the USA, along with Christian ones and Muslin ones abriad reitierates that no one people should be perceived as all good or bad. NEUTRAL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moving right along, my next AUS/NZ encounter was with an ancient bitch who was apparently the wife of a WWII Yabk thatbrought her stateside. I was on a Continental flight and this couple and a young white girl had sat down without checking seats, thus displacing me temporarily. I was polite, yet her husband was stunned when I announced that I was assigned to the row. The bitch was annoyed that I spole up, and other travelers began to heckle me for saying anything, since a little white girl (about ten) was alone. By then, pregnant me, had had enough of these bigots going from New Orleans to Houston and some to St. Louis. so I had to school all of them on several facts. 1) I paid for the seat. 2) However they were used tio treating Blacks in TX, MO or AUS/NZ would not work with me. 3) I insisted that the flight crew enforce the seat assignments. When I disembarked, I was looked at with fear by the few Blacks that boarded during the exchange, although no rage or profanity occurred. One bigot chimed with others that they hoped I had a good trip and went to church to which I responded that I would more than they ever could, since none bought one thing I had in life! In other words, I waas ready to become &quot;Bitch Ryan&quot; instead of Mary Williams (a pregnant Black woman brutally lynched with erh fetus in Valdosta, GA around 1919). NEGATIVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When living in New Orleans years before Katrina, I had to moonlight after my marriage ended, since academic there are paid near the pits of all U.S. places. A friendly NZ tourist came to the shop and offered that he had a Maori wife who would have like to meet me. He shared an e-mail which I lost. POSITIVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Maori dance troupe came to New Orleans for cultural venues, and I was the unanimous selection to emcee the show at the accelerated school I worked at as librarian. Of the tattoos the office staff saw, they were reluctant to connect with them otherwise. These were mostly minority staff in a location near St. Charles Avenue in a faux voodoo and crime site! The show was a hit. POSITIVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have been invited by Child Migrants Trust clients to Australia. Their first international conference was in New Orleans (2001), America&#039;s largest seaport. I was the lone Catholic layperson who attended, since I am a pro-active Catholic appalled at their treatment which paralleled the Stolen Generations timewise and with deceitful and evil means of taking children from their families. Their revelations were awful. POSITIVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At my daughter&#039;s Ivy League alma mater, one of her best classmates was a student from Perth. Her sweetheart was an athlete that visited AUS with her and relocated there after school. He is American and Black. POSITIVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because Americans have received some bad reviews as exchange students hosts, I tried as a mother and friend of two white sisters to make their charges welcome, along with my daughter. They were friendly, yet lacking in common courtesy, such as &quot;Thank You&quot;, and I felt as if they were of the ilk that either never has connected with Aboriginals or Blacks from anywhere. I got the feeling that they were surprised to encounter educated Blacks that did not live the negative stereotypes in the media worldwide. I would not interact with them again for these reasons. As teens, age will prove their ultimate characters, yet I believe that by 1st grade, most of us have evolved. Cultural values can last. No, I would not like for my child to ever have white friends like them - neither here nor there. NEGATIVE&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Having shared all of this, the opposition to National Sorry Day and the belief by some Australians that Aboriginals are either the lowest people on earth or less than human (blogs and YouTube comments) is disgusting. Jimmy Governour was wrong to murder. I have awareness of the African diaspora presence in AUS since the First Fleet to the early 1900&#039;s up to now, from the first &quot;bushranger&quot; to activists concerned about the indigenous man, yet how can I abide bigotry elsewhere when U.S. racism still exists here so much? All who desire to go &quot;Down Under&quot;, do so. My jury is still out for all of these reasons. I wonder if the same Australians who marry Blacks here, like the husband of Leslie Uggams and the father of Soledad O&#039;Brien and those who love Tina Turner are oppressors of Aborigines there. Perhaps not, I hope. When I was younger, they were classified in anthropology as Caucausoid. Now, these human beings are classified as a separate race, Australoid, with the least intellect and like Neanderthals. Why?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good night, and G&#039;day!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:05:51 -0800</pubDate>
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 <title>Wars: large scale racism.</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I agree Bruce. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One way of denying our own racism (or any other undesirable aspect of human nature) is to accuse different cultures/groups/individuals of being so. We all have yukky stuff just waiting for time, place and power to surface.  Accusations of racism so often come from the inner spin doctor. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe every human being is &quot;racist&quot; but most human beings don&#039;t consciously want to be.  There are many other cheap ego trips; sexism, feminism, misogynism etc etc.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example. I have no doubt that, if we Australians made mass weapons of destruction, then we too would not understand why people in other cultures don&#039;t consider it a privilege to have their bodies and homes shredded by them.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:42:56 -0800</pubDate>
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 <title>Australia&#039;s Reputation for Racism</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m an African-American who lives in Washington, DC.  Growing up here, I&#039;ve met people from everywhere.  I&#039;ve met Australians at the World Bank I admire. Smart, well-read, funny, well-travelled folks. I also have friends who are African-American who have visited Australia and loved it. But one reason why some might think that Australia is racist is the Russell Crowe film, Romper Stomper. Another reason is the history of treatment of the aboriginal peoples. Yet another reason is because there are a lot of people from Hong Kong who have relatives in Australia routinely say Australia ia racist.  I think the truth is probably that if you are looking for jerks, you&#039;ll find them all over the world, in any city, town, or nation you choose.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:37:47 -0800</pubDate>
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 <title>Wow! Ignorance really isn&#039;t</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Wow! Ignorance really isn&#039;t bliss...&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:24:23 -0800</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Ah seriously who fuckin cares I&#039;m an Aussie and I pay out on every other race including other Aussie bogans id hate to live in a country where  you can&#039;t say a joke or say how u feel. All u tight ass idiots need to get over yourselves and have a laugh lifes to short.  Lisa x&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:34:51 -0800</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m an African American male who lives in a rural town in New South Wales. I&#039;m totally accepted, and the locals are the nicest people I&#039;ve ever seen. In fact, I&#039;m married to one of them. I live a nice peaceful life, and I even got my Australian citizenship last year. Best decision of my life to move to my new home country. I truly love Australia and shall never leave her.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:11:12 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>A few years ago I spent 9</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;A few years ago I spent 9 months in Perth and Fremantle (over two visits) and I loved it. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll have a great time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For what it&#039;s worth, I didn&#039;t ever experience any prejudice as a (white) Pom, and found people mostly pretty friendly, at least in comparison with here in the south of England, but that&#039;s perhaps not saying very much. ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:27:15 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>I met an australian couple</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I met an australian couple on holiday in Rhodes who have invited me to visit them in perth, they are of greek and italian decent and i am black british,  (my parents are from caribbean but i was born in the uk).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was afraid to visit because of the potential racism but now ive read that perth is a multicultural city i feel more open to visiting. People will always have racist views no matter where you go, and i cant change that. but why should i miss out  on experiencing wonderful things in life because of that. Britain can be just as racist as anywhere else!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will definately be going to perth in 2010, i cant wait!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:13:25 -0700</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I think ur point was misunderstood. All u were saying is that in ur country people view blacks &amp;amp; hispanics differently. It isnt ur fault. When u came here the views were different and u were not use to it because the way ur were brought up and the country. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is how people learn about others is by going into their world and learning. Your family doesnt understand because they are not from a Country that is rich in mulitcultural learnings. I think people tried to tag u as a big racist. Everyone has racist views about something but the goal is to realize our ignorance and change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;California girl&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:37:09 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>American sensitivity on race</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;American sensitivity on race is almost as funny as their national pride. By a strange coincide American race relations is among the lowest in the world and they spend more time in wars outside their borders than everyone else put together.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:27:00 -0700</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;ve arrived this morning in Melbourne, a very pleasant city in which I haven&amp;#8217;t allocated enough time, as per usual.  Lots of interesting food, seems very livable with great transit, pleasant spaces and parks and architecture.  And also surveillance cameras, everywhere.  And warnings about stopping terrorism even though there hasn&amp;#8217;t really been much here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once again I wish there were simple agencies to rent you all your tourist things so you didn&amp;#8217;t have to pack them or worry about them.  As I wished for before, there was a Vodaphone store in the airport arrivals lounge that sold me a SIM card for $30, though to get a really good deal you have to buy another $50 (AUS, 37.5 USD) of airtime.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My tour will take me now to Adelaide briefly, then up to Darwin to stay in Kakadu national park, then to Cairns (reef, of course) and finally ending in Sydney on the 17th, including speaking at the AUUG open source and unix conference on the 19th.  Should be a great trip, and I&amp;#8217;ll try to blog other observations about Australia.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some immediate ones:  Most people have told me they felt australians were great friendly people.  My cab driver (black) said he loved Australia except the people were the most unfriendly in the world&amp;#8230;   Race may have something to do with this, I fear.  I&amp;#8217;m told my (barely) Canadian accent will sound sexy here.&lt;/p&gt;
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