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 <title>human race</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;it&#039;s human nature that we mourn for better things and for an alternative.. when we get them we rejoice for a while, but then we can&#039;t help it.. we just have to trash them.. like it or not it&#039;s the state of the human condition... perhaps we need to do it to feel human..&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:36:33 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>Hahaha!
Well as I&#039;m sure you</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hahaha!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well as I&#039;m sure you know by now they DID rebuild the man and it DID pour rain -- or rather mud from the sky!  Fucking awesome year.  And rough.  Yeah baby!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:54:13 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>Hey &#039;burned out&#039;, yah i</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hey &#039;burned out&#039;, yah i agree, in some ways it is a parody of itself, no?  it is not being very creative when &#039;furry boots&#039; and &#039;furry hat&#039; have become the &#039;standard required gear&#039;.  it is still a fun time though, and there are still plenty of people pushing the limits.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey Paul, good question... (start my opinion:) my thought is that they don&#039;t want it to be a &#039;come for 2 nights&#039; kind of thing... IMO you should be in it to win it, or not.  you start selling &#039;day passes&#039; and you will end up with a bunch of tourists that aren&#039;t into it, and it will change the event (some say its too late).  people already complain about people that just show up for thursday-sunday.  not that you can&#039;t show up for a couple days and do it right... but to really get into it, i think you need to be out there a couple days just to acclimate and get settled in.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it&#039;s not just &#039;camping&#039;, you can go to KOA to camp.  this is a radical self reliance experience... you should be coming out, trying to build your own unique camping structure out of a bunch of whatever materials (and make it look sweet!), not just pitching a Costco tent for a couple days.  you gotta bring all your water, all your food, safety supplies, tools, structures, you can&#039;t buy a darn thing there except ice or coffee. it is meant to be an outside the mainstream experience.  you are participating in the wild and crazy city that springs up out of nowhere.  look at pictures from burning man, and then compare them to pictures from your local KOA.  quite a different experience!    have fun at a reno casino for a week, that would blow!  and my understanding is that it is a &#039;participatory&#039; event, IMO meaning you should be displaying some cutting edge or alternative art, or dressing crazy to freak people out, or setting up a camp with free drinks for people or giving massages, or bringing some crazy homebuilt vehicle to give people rides in, or shooting flames out your mouth, or whatever, those are just examples... just something that is contributing to the overall experience.  not just showing up like a tourist that is &#039;going camping for a couple days&#039;.  So I guess for me the overall experience is why it is worth it to me, and why it is worth it for me to save my money and take weeks of time getting ready and schedule my vacation time to go.  If it is destined for you to go, or if you really want to go, then you will figure out how to make it happen.  It ain&#039;t for everybody I guess, it is what it is.  that is just my opinion, hope that helps! (//end my opinion)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;M&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:19:47 -0700</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;The military should set up a recruiting staion there. Alot of wingnut misfits and liberals with nothing better to do than squat in the desert and hum mantras to their pagen gods.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:38:55 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>Cult!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;CULT!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:40:44 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>Burning man has already sold it&#039;s ass people!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Burning man has rolled over and took it in the but by making BM 2007 look like a science fair. I shake my head and decieded after so many years of asking myself why I go will no longer. I mean look you have vandals, yuppies and now coperate sponsorship? And for those of you who hate it and wished it ruined....... It already is! This is mainstream now and like everything once pristean and fresh once it hits the yuppies and the weekend warriors it&#039;s fucked. Look up above you have moms sending off their daughters and kids around the campus making it seem like a goddamn themepark.. Jeez! Shame on you BM HQ should of keep it small and kept it real. So sad!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Burned out&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;addis for prez&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:18:18 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>I meant to type $45.00 in the heading</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I meant to type 45 in the heading above and I also spelled desert wrong so don&#039;t give me crap about that.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:17:30 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>$40.00 to $50.00 a night to camp? Damn!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;$40.00 to $45.00 a night to camp in the desert?  I recieved a brochure from The Nugget casino in Reno not far away and it had rooms for $49.00. And don&#039;t say they make it up in gambling because most people go to downtown reno to gamble. What if you just go there for three days? $100.00 a night to camp in the desert and one fireworks show? Why do they charge everyone for the entire week? Why not charge at the gate from that day on? Some people have jobs and can&#039;t get an entire week off to go screw around in the derert so we have to pay costs for the entire week? That&#039;s bullshit! I would like for somebody to explain that without sounding like a clone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Paul M&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:13:37 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>huh?  yes, it is a total</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;huh?  yes, it is a total rip-off, a  scam, a con, and it is the worst time you will ever have in your life.  please don&#039;t ever go!  jealous maybe?  enjoy your bitter prejudice life!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:05:43 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>Harvey is that jewish?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;What a con!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:53:29 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>sorry, thought i linked</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;sorry, thought i linked that... &lt;a href=&quot;http://afterburn.burningman.com/06/financial_chart.html&quot; title=&quot;http://afterburn.burningman.com/06/financial_chart.html&quot;&gt;http://afterburn.burningman.com/06/financial_chart.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there is a &#039;shitload&#039; of portolets out there, and they run good service on them. all the waste has to be sucked out multiple times a day, who knows how many times the fleet of sewage trucks has to drive out to town and back, probably all the way to Reno, to &#039;dump&#039; their load... all the dudes that drive those trucks and gotta clean out the portolets and clean up other peoples waste, well they aren&#039;t gonna be out there in the heat doing it for free... add toilet paper, the chemical solution in the portos, hand sanitizer and dispensers, well all that stuff costs money and adds up.  yah it sounds like a high figure, but thats what they say it costs.  when is the last time you got a price quote on portolets for 40,000 people, to be delivered and serviced in the middle of nowhere, for a week or more?  maybe you can get them a better deal?  hook a brotha up!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no i am not trying to make myself feel better about it.  i can blow $300 in a night at the bar... $300 for b-man aint a big deal to me.  what is it that makes you think that is such a &#039;rip-off&#039;? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-smiley&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:39:22 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>heh. well, it *did* rain.</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;heh. well, it *did* rain. Not very much, but it rained. And it was beautiful! Double rainbows too!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:00:39 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>1/2 million for port o potties?</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Who ever told you that it costs a half million to bring in some plastic crappers also told you that $300 is a steal! Lol get real! You just don&#039;t want to feel like a dumbfuck for paying so much! Where do you get your figures from guys?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Silk&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:49:58 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>&quot;He makes close to $</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;He makes close to $ 10,000,000 on the &quot;event&quot;. &quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you obviously have no business sense at all.  ever heard of a thing called &#039;expenses&#039;?  1 million to blm and local agencies just for them to let the event go on, 1/4 mill for insurance, 1/2 mill for portolets, then you have infrastructure, building materials, fuel and equipment, year round staff and office that it takes to make the event happen, and it goes on and on.   yah their &#039;payroll&#039; for last year was listed at 2 million.  but so what.  you want everyone to bust their asses all year long to make this happen, and do it for free?   how about you just tell your boss that you don&#039;t need to eat or pay your bills anymore, and do that for free.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:23:16 -0700</pubDate>
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 <title>&quot;Charge so much&quot; - anyone</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Charge so much&quot; - anyone who utters these words about the tiny $300 ticket price is obviously not at all informed about what goes on at Burning Man, the expenses involved, or the effort.  $20 for tickets to a stupid movie is a rip off.  $300 for tickets to Burning Man is a bargain.  It would be for twice the price too.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:29:31 -0700</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Update:  I now have a whole &lt;a href=&quot;/topic/burning-man&quot;&gt;Burning Man&lt;/a&gt; area on the blog!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;ve not been blogging of late because I&amp;#8217;m at Burning Man, and while normally I don&amp;#8217;t report breaking news in this blog, we just witnessed a strange event.  Through accident or arson, the Man was set alight this evening shortly after totality began in the eclipse of the moon.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The man was not loaded with explosives or fireworks as he is before his planned burn, so it was a more sedate affair, and soon fire crews arrived to &amp;#8220;save the man&amp;#8221; &amp;#8212; something we have been asking for in mock protests for years.   They did put him out, and he still stands, a bit worse for wear.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I managed to get some photos of the burn&amp;#8230;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=http://www.templetons.com/images/drip-flame.jpg&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Efforts to save the man&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=http://www.templetons.com/images/save-the-man.jpg&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The injured man, missing a hand and burnt, under the eclipsed moon&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=http://www.templetons.com/images/man-moon-small.jpg&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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