Brad Ideas - Hitler tries a DMCA takedown - Comments

Thank you for your brilliant explanation of creating and posting

peachy_leachy — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:55:07 -0700

I had no idea how the clips were created for YouTube so it was brilliant to have such a comprehensive rundown of what you had to go through in order to make your Hilter DMCA clip and keep it on YouTube.

Thanks for enlightening me and others who need to know this stuff is going on.

What a lovely video and an

martin — Wed, 19 May 2010 13:42:26 -0700

What a lovely video and an interesting alternative -

I enjoyed it lot.you deserve a bigger audience.well done

> Safe Harbor has been used

gwern — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:25:21 -0700

> Safe Harbor has been used as a "get out of jail free card" for too long, by bloggers who like the traffic from flamewars but want to pretend they're more than just a Limbaugh imitation.

How many annoying bloggers are the Wikipedias worth?

SafeHarbor is going away, anyway

DensityDuck — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:40:47 -0700

Recent copyright cases have decided that it's incumbent on the provider to show that they had no knowledge of the infringement. And there's a libel suit in the UK where the defendant's motion to dismiss under Safe Harbor was rejected.

Which is actually okay with me. Safe Harbor has been used as a "get out of jail free card" for too long, by bloggers who like the traffic from flamewars but want to pretend they're more than just a Limbaugh imitation. "Oh, you can't blame ME for all these horrible racist things, it's just THE COMMENTORS, and my policy CLEARLY states that I'm not responsible for the content!"

You said this elsewhere and it was wrong there too

DensityDuck — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 09:37:17 -0700

I think it was, what, ArsTechnica? You tried the same "BUY STOCKS = PUBLIC HURRRR" thing there, and it was pointed out that "private company" is being used in the sense of "YouTube is not the government", not "you can't buy stock".

Google - a "Private Company?"

MissMolly — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:31:34 -0700

The last time I knew, Google was publicly owned - people can purchase stocks.

"YouTube (Google) is a private company offering free web hosting, so it is their right to take down anything for just about any reason, even if they don’t like the colour scheme."

Time for a parody on you-tube non-dcma removal

joe — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:26:43 -0700

Would you do one on you-tube losing its war on takedown without notice, and post a sample counter notice with instructions and the same for a non-dcma youtube dispute

Sue Youtube?

Jacob Minne — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:04:03 -0700

It would seem that in removing these Fair Use videos without receiving a formal takedown notice, You Tube is exercising editorial discretion in the videos it publishes (or at least allowing the likes Constantin to do so on their behalf). Would this be grounds for YouTube to lose their Safe Harbor status?

I don't really want this to happen to You Tube - I think they offer a great service, which they clearly couldn't offer without Safe Harbor - but on the other hand, I think this clearly shows that their fingerprinting system goes well beyond simply preventing the illicit uploading of copyrighted works.

me too

Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:05:33 -0700

Agreed, me too!

Very well done with the subtitles, Brad!

Yes, it does appear down

brad — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:10:43 -0700

I was confused at first, because I still see the clip when logged into my youtube account, but others don’t. They must let the uploader see the clip after removal, but there is as yet no way for me to file a counternotice.

Not sure yet, but this may not be a DMCA takedown, but rather Youtube’s “fingerprinting” service where the studio provides clips and YouTube blocks anything that matches them, which of course also includes blocking fair use parodies.

Clip has been DMCA'd

David Molnar — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:18:08 -0700

Clicking on your parody clip reveals the message "This video contains content from Constantin Film, who has blocked it on copyright grounds." Time to file a counter-notice!

Unedited clip

Craig — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:48:41 -0800

Does anyone know if this clip is available somewhere without any subtitles? I'd like to download my own copy and create my own parody. I'm trying to do this for a presentation for a work friend who is leaving suddenly and so I don't have time to order the movie and get it here on time for that.

Any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
C.

Downfall parody

djarm67 — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:54:02 -0700

lol. Love your version.

I had done one of these myself after a series of flagging, votebotting and DMCAs on mnay of the YouTube pro-science channels. (Of note: mine was up a week before yours)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QDC1KNavbE

Enjoy

Don't eat all my bandwidth

brad — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:54:32 -0700

But a version can be found at http://www.templetons.com/files/hitler-takedown.avi

Please offer free format, downloadable version

Kris Bergstrom — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:47:02 -0700

I absolutely LOVE this video. Great work, Brad! I'd like to point others to it, but all my friends know how I lament youtube's requirement of non-free (as in freedom) Flash. If possible, I'd love to point people to a downloadable/free-format version of the movie. Is one available anywhere?

Hitler tries a DMCA takedown

brad — Wed, 27 May 2009 19:36:51 -0700

New Update, April 2010: Yes, even this parody video has been taken down though the YouTube Content-ID takedown system — just as my version of Hitler says he is going to do at the end. I filed a dispute, and it seems that now you can watch it again on YouTube, at least until Constantin responds as well as on Vimeo. I have a new post about the takedown with more details. In addition, YouTube issued an official statement to which I responded.

Unless you’ve been under a rock, you have probably seen a parody clip that puts new subtitles on a scene of Hitler ranting and raving from the 2004 German movie Downfall (Der Untergang). Some of these videos have gathered millions of views, with Hitler complaining about how he’s been banned from X-box live, or nobody wants to go to Burning Man, or his new camera sucks. The phenomenon even rated a New York Times article.

It eventually spawned meta-parodies, where Hitler would rant about how many Hitler videos were out on the internet, or how they sucked. I’ve seen at least 4 of these. Remarkably, one of them, called Hitler is a Meme was pulled from YouTube by the studio, presumably using a DMCA takedown. A few others have also been pulled, though many remain intact. (More on that later.)

Of course, I had to do my own. I hope, even if you’ve seen a score of these, that this one will still give you some laughs. If you are familiar with the issues of DRM, DMCA takedowns, and copyright wars, I can assure you based on the reviews of others that you will enjoy this quite a bit. Of course, as it criticises YouTube as well as the studio, I have put it on YouTube. But somehow I don’t think they would be willing to try a takedown — not on so obvious a fair use as this one, not on the chairman of the most noted legal foundation in the field. But it’s fun to dare them.

(Shortly I may also provide the video in some higher quality locations. I do recommend you click on the “HQ” button if you have bandwidth.)